"A. Is was not much-over two or three weeks * * * And on pages 65 to 681 “Q. General, can you tell us when the ITO Commission left Tokyo enroute to Berlin? “A. They must have left about the beginning of January, as they came by a fast Italian ship and it takes about four weeks, so that it would follow that it would be the beginning of January, as they arrived in Berlin early in February. “Q. And it would also follow that that was after you had been to Italy and had been unsuccessful in persuading the Italian Government to come along and join in the Tripartite Pact? “A. Yes, that is correct. “Q. And while that Commission was enroute to Berlin they stopped in Italy? Yes, on the road. “A. And while they were in Italy they discussed this matter with the Italian Government and also with Ambassador SHIRATORI, is not that correct? “A. No. they did not speak with the Italian Government - only with SHIRATORI. The events chronologically are more or less as follows: I went to Rome, then later after SHIFATORI arrived we met at San Remo and discussed the Tripartite Pact. Later, after the ITO Commission arrived in Berlin SHIRATORI came there to speak to me again.