and proceeded from there by ship. Upon his return he spoke to the General Staff, iho in turn spoke of the matter to the then Foreign Minister, UGAKI. The Foreign Minister in turn discussed the matter with the five Cabinet members committee. This was a committee among the Cabinet ministers which dis¬cussed particularly important matters. A telegram was then received by me from the General Staff stating that they were more or less in accord and that the five-man committee was also agreeable to the sug¬gestion. "Q. General, can you tell us what ministers these five were? "A. This is simply from my memory and I am not absolutely certain, but I think the 5-man committee consisted of the Prime Minister, KONOYE, the Foreign Minister, UGAKI; the Finance Minister, IKEDA; the War Minister, ITAGAKI; and the Navy Minister, YONAI. # * ♦ WA. My reason for sending KASAB&RA to Japan was simply to get the views of the Army, but as I discovered later the Army at this time was particularly desirous of bringing to a close the China incident and they felt that this would be a step in that direction so that they took it upon themselves to speak to the Foreign Minister, who in turn spoke to the committee of five. ***