WQ. Now, RIBBENTROP's views, his actual views, were to the effect that he wanted military, as well as the other type of aid from Japan in case of an attack, is that correct? flA. I will speak to you a little more fully about that now. To go over this once more so that there will be no errors, and so that the matter will be entirely understood by you: (1) In so far as the actual pact to be published goes, there was no argument. This was to be simply a mutual aid pact, with no strings attached. (2) Japan wished in this regard to settle the matter either by secret pact or other means in regard to the other nations besides Russia. That is to say, that the aid to be given them would stop short of militaiy aid. (3) Germany objected to this on the grounds that should such a secret pact be signed and should there be a leak and the 7 existence of this secret pact or agreement became known it would seriously weaken the actual pact. Therefore, her counter-suggestion was that as there would naturally be meetings between the two nations should such a pact be consummated, the matter of deciding what to do against what country should be left until such a moment, and no binding pact modifying the overall treaty be signed. “Q. General, we have been talking about RIBBENTROP’s views and we have been talking about the views of your Government. I am wondering with respect to how you personally felt about the matter.