"Q. So that actually then they came over to bring the message from the Japanese Government and to also make it definite and clear to you exactly what the Japanese Government wanted and how far they would go, is that correct? "A. They did not say how far I could go or how far I could not go, but simply said to try to carry out negotiations along this line. WQ. Do I understand that they wanted you to understand definitely what the views of the Army and the Navy and the Foreign Office in Tokyo were and you were to be governed accordingly? "A. Yes.11 * * * Interrogation of OSHBlA, Hiroshi, of 11 February 1946, pages 63 and 64s * * * "Q. Tell us the circumstances under which you first discussed the matter with SHIRATORI. "A. I first met SHIRATORI at San Remo, Italy, in January 1939• We had arranged to meet at some pleasant spot in order to talk over the progress in the negotiations for the Tripartite Pact. * * * »Q. General, this meeting with SHIRATORI in Italy took place very soon after your return from Italy to Berlin, that is correct, is it not?